Saturday, August 14, 2004

Time doesn't exist...

Relatively. It's an illusion of change, just as motion doesn't really exist, it's just an illusion. Which should make you think if time and motion are just illusions, isn't everything in this world just an illusion? Should I explain the illusion of time and motion first. Ok.

Well let's start with time, motion actually ties directly into this, hopefully you can follow the logic cause if I go to into depth I'll lose most of you. Ok just as god or I am (or are you a figment of my imagination) just a man made concept, so is time. It is used "scientifically" to explain motion. So if one is an illusion logic dictates the other must be since it is defined by the first. So many people feel like time "flows", like a river is the most common explanation. Which gives rise to all sorts of science fiction like time travel and such. It's not true though. Time is more like a snapshot in time. Just a a movie is just a bunch of snapshots strung together to create motion, time acts in the same way. It's a series of instants. Your brain strings the instants together to create motion, a sense of change. So because of the instantaneous nature of time it can never be changed one it has happened, the instant is gone and is only a reflection in so called "time". You can see it, but not change it. As for the future it hasn't happened yet. So everyday you create illusions, nothings real.

Another way to look at it is like a score of music. Each note can be played individually with no reference to each other. Given a set parameter...or just meter, or beat. The music comes alive, often called a movement, the music seems to flow, but it is only made up of single immovable notes. It has a time signature, which gives it it's feeling. What else gives the music it's feeling? How the notes interact with other notes, often called harmonies. It's an interesting thing that pythagoras often thought about. He might've just been the first hippie, hehe. The unfortunate thing for his theories is that they cling to the notion of motion. When in effect a we live in a harmonius universe, it is quite the opposite. We live in a universe of harmonic illusion. The chaos hides between the instants. The cosmos is a cacophony, that hides itself in the illusion of time.

It is a giant clock with no notion of a path it just is. Every turning working growing no reason, no rhyme. Just chaos underpinning the illusion of time. Are you a figment of my imagination, or am I a figment of yours? Does it matter because we are both real in a fake illusionary kind of way.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting. I challenge your thoughts of time. A string of instances. What makes up an instance? A thought? A sound? An orgasm? How about a long note compared to a short one? I perceive that I know the difference. If time does not exist, how then can I differentiate? Explain to me that time does not heal all wounds. Why does something that affected me so much no longer does? Take your "time" answering this one.

11:01 AM  
Blogger the devil said...

Here's the litmus test. Sit in a room in which there is no sound, a clock, or a window. You can only sit there. No movement is allowed. Nothing will change. The first time you feel the need to piss, that's an instant, the first time you feel hungry that's an instant. Other than instants that you expirience because of your living tissue, time is lost on you.

Listen to your heart beat, the beats are just instants, you can hear your heart slow down, then speed up as you realize the anxiety of not being able to percieve something that you've always had. Time.

Time is just a referece in reference to an instant. Or and instant relating to another instant.

You have asked the right question but in reference to the wrong thing. How long is an instant...NO, how long is a second? Is a second always a second long? 365.25 days in a year, 24 hours in a day, 60 mins in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute. How fucking arbitrary. We created time because of percieved change. How do we know time isn't slowing down?....we would never know. We reference the atom. But can't an atom be affected by gravity, of course, gravity so strong that it can slow it down, thus fundamentally slowing down "time". We would never know, because we would all be percieving the change to together. If you take an instant, that instant can never be slowed down or speeded up, it can never be affected, because after all it is your instant to percieve.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me your beliefs or disbeliefs of time are applicable to most things. Or at least in the realm of measurement. Is there such a thing as distance? Could you not say the same thing about that? Do we not measure distance in time? I can ride my bike somewhere, but if I drove, I would get there in "no time". Since it seems to me that you like to ignore assumptions (which I have no problem with) you could argue anything forever (another measurement of time, or should I say lack of measurement). I disagree that time is a perceived series of instants. You did not comment on a long note versus a short one. How about a breath of air. It is not a series of instants. It has 2: one between the exhaling and inhaling, and one between the inhaling and exhaling. I feel the air slowly entering my lungs and filling them to capacity. I think what you describe as time, you are actually describing memory.

9:38 AM  
Blogger the devil said...

Distance can be measured because an inch will never change. How ever what I'm telling you is a second under extreme gravity will change. Thus it is not a constant. In fact I love the concept of "c" (the speed of light" as a constant. Scientist have actaully stoppped a photon, how can a constant be stopped? It can, because of the fallicy of time. Speed being fundamentally tied to time.

As far as a breath of air, it it a series of instants. Your brain tells your diaphram to contract then your lungs expand bring in air to the lungal area. Next the silia in your lungs convert the air into usable products for your body. I could go on, but these are all steps, or instants, you can feel the air come into your lungs because the air "flows" over each individual cell creating a feeling of movement. You have just described what I have. Your perception is movement, but it is a series of cells (instants) sending impulses that the air is coming into your lungs.

As for memory, light is like memory. It reflects off objects and creates and image that our eyes see, if that object becomes different than the first percieved image we call it movement. These are not new concepts, I think a human that described this every well, was Zeno of Elea. Few of his writings have been preserved, but he proposed very interesting paradoxes you might want to look at.

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these your own thoughts or just a bunch of stuff you read and then took what you liked cuz it sounded cool?

You speek in theory. You make assumptions (distance exists - why, just because you think you can see it; how do you stop a photon if you throw out the measurement of time, how do you know it's stopped) and then you throw assumptions out to fit your view of things. It does not seem that you digest the questions as I pose them. Rather you grab one sentence or one thought of many and trample it, ignoring the underlying content. I think your blogname is inaccurate in every sense.

I've met the devil and you're not her. Have met the beast? Tell me how she made you feel. No bullshit. Can you see her or do you just know when she is there? Or do you only know once she has left?

You seem to armchair your way through your thoughts and then reference someone else. Memory is like light? Are you fuckin kidding me? What is this? physics for non-science majors?

I think you oversimplify the universe into little digestible chunks that are small enough for you to swallow. I am wary of anyone who speaks in absolutes.

"The chaos hides between the instants. The cosmos is a cacophony, that hides itself in the illusion of time." - what does this mean?

What is your favorite blog? This one is starting to bore me. You could argue this forever from every angle till nothing was left.

11:58 AM  
Blogger the devil said...

See this is why I didn't want to explain too much because you just can't handle it. These are my own thoughts, yet no thought is original. I have been the inspiration through time to think differently. That is what this blog is about. Thinking differently, outside the conformity that your life has become.

As for armchairing my way through this blog, you might be right. If I was to explain everything to you what would be the point. I would just be a another control on the system. I would be another teacher, I'm not a teacher, this is just my philosophy, if you read or not, it doesn't matter, if you worship or not it doesn't matter. Maybe I should hire a consultant like those slick radio stations and tv shows do, I can find out my demographic then write specifically for them. Fuck that I'm the fucking devil I do what I want and write how I write.

If you can't understand that light can be used to carry information because it's part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Thus in nature it inherently carries the information through space forever. Then I can't help you. This is physics for those who think outside the box. Quantum theory, is just theory, just like god is a theory. Human's can't even understand gravity and here you are telling me I'm oversimplifying things.

As for
"The chaos hides between the instants. The cosmos is a cacophony, that hides itself in the illusion of time."
There is so much that science has left to understand about antimatter, gravity, the speed of light as a constant (which is a misinterpretation).

Scienctist treat thier theories like religious zealots treat thier god. And I am absolute? hahaha. I think I found your god, your a slave to time. one of my favorites blogs is http://oddpoetry.blogspot.com

1:17 PM  

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